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Somebody at some point would come forward but the fact that he is a puppet for the russians. >> eric: you have that person treating -- the same way we are treating snowden. >> juan: this guy won't come back and say i did this for a reason. >> eric: i think snowden is different from hillary clinton's email servers and different from these wikileaks -- cia. >> juan: is there no such thing as privacy anymore? the fbi rector answers that question very candidly. obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. oh yes.....

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Let's bring in campaign manager, ken, is chief investigative reporter. there was a number of issues with mitt romney, this guy won't get off it. he said i had the biggest this, biggest number, 3 million people vote for me. what's going on here? >> at some point it's like having a conversation with a person who believes that the world is flat. the fact that he communicated is false. you have to throw up your hands and say uncle. >> is that good for democracy and that you give up on notion of objective reality? >> of course not. >> you can't say, the moon is

Mlk bust. over and over there's this constant attempt to undermine his credibility and the movement he represents. it's frustrating for not just him, but i think so many of us that are trying to work to get this message out. so, i mentioned this to jonathan, but part of this is a two-way street. we want to -- we want to have a healthy dialogue. not just with you, but with the american people. because he's fighting for jobs. he's fighting to make this country safer. but when you're constantly getting told, that can't be true, we doubt that you can do this, this won't happen, and that's the narr...

Concerned and tillerson is the signal of friendship and a guy they know and that would be a first step toward repairing those relations which -- >> interesting stuff, michael. thank you. heidi. hugh hewitt. michael crowley. when we return, let me finish with trump watch for this tuesday night. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.