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It's not just influening american consumers. at the heart of ate all, the leverage is energy and the reason things are going to move or not move with ukraine is going to come down to energy. >> sandra: look at the nord stream 2 pipeline. it was newsworthy when asked after he said that we will shut down that pipeline if putin invades ukraine, the follow up is how can you do that or say that? we will do that. if germany is not on board, they have control of the pipeline. he said we will stop it. how? he said we will. there was no exact plan detailed there. maybe they just don't want to share it....

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Impeachment investigation. >> that's right. >> if you believe as the democrats do that the president is a recidivist. >> you think that -- the democrats keep an open impeachment investigation a rolling -- >> even in the senate trial -- even in a senate trial it's very possible we are going to see evidence come in from the press, from trump's own mouth. >> right. >> politically. >> exactly. >> it's like joe louis the great boxer be he said fighters fight. criminals commit crimes. this guy won't quit. >> ongoing trials? >> i think that this would -- you know what, i hope they do it. i hope all n...

In cheek. you should ask him his religions belief. >> i wasn't going to ask you to defend him. >> he's not a far-right -- i wouldn't say -- >> he's a birther. >> there's people that -- i disagree. i believe that obama was born in the united states. >> no, no, no. >> i don't think that's far-right conspiracy theory. >> what else is it? if you're saying obama wasn't born in this country and it's not a far-right conspiracy, what is it? >> it took obama, what, five years to release his birth certificates. if he had released it -- >> this guy won't release his taxes this president and you're saying...

Returns, but i also belief that if there's an audit, i have no -- >> why won't he show proof o the audit? >> i think docongress is going know whether or not there's an audit or not. >> if you want obama to show you a birth certificate right away, why wouldn't he give us proof of an audit. >> there are other documents -- >> the certificate came right out. i don't want to go through the vetting of president obama. he also said, your employee, that the -- >> he wasn't an employee. he's a host on one of the shows. >> he's not an employee. >> he's under the banner of newsmax. >> he said the vague i...