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Studies on this. spousal abuse goes through the roof. you can't blame spousal abuse after a disaster on anybody. >> let's get the inside scoop of "the washington post" correspondent and "the new york times" chief white house correspondent. peter, first to you. i don't know. brock doesn't seem to be willing to let this go. and these are scientific studies, one of which the gw study was adopted by the governor of puerto rico who has been an ally of the president's throughout this, not the mayor of san juan but the governor of puerto rico. so what is the percentage in denying the validity of the ...

He's doing everything right, and people will die in those two states because of that. >> you know, i mean, if anything, first of all, the 2,975, that's probably a conservative estimate. if anything, the government has, you know, stuck to an artificially low death toll of 64 people for really this past year, and it's only -- and in fact, according to the researchers from harvard, they said that the government made it difficult for them to even get access to mortality statistics and made their survey all the more difficult. the government of puerto rico did support this gw study, and the governo...

Fema itself didn't after action report discovered that there were deficiencies and that -- say that they are working to address some of the problems that existed, that affected the response to hurricane maria. the white house, on the record, won't dispute those numbers, the death count numbers. when the report came out and the numbers were fixed, sarah sanders put out a statement saying that, you know, they continue to work with the government of puerto rico. she didn't dispute the numbers on the record. but the president of the united states says different things than what his administration ...

Options in terms of preventing those deaths in the future. >> yeah. forget just the human -- the human decency side of this, of accounting for people who were killed in the aftermath of a hurricane. it's how to prevent it and make changes to protect people as we enter hurricane season this time around. leyla, more to come. wait for the gw study. but still, an important moment here. thank you so much. coming up for us, a rare apology from the colorful judge in the manafort trial. what he is sorry for. why he said it from the bench. and how it could impact the case. that's next. what's the #1 ...

And they are saying that they have no plans to change that death toll, 64, until the study they commissioned coming out of george washington university is complete. but what's the problem with that? we've seen delays with that study. the preliminary findings of that study were supposed to be out in may. that didn't happen. then a recent release really only put out what the methodology of that is. so we really haven't gotten firm numbers and causes for these deaths under that study. in the meantime, you know, that number, that death toll, is not changing. and why is that so important? well, eve...