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We saw it in pittsburgh not too long ago with the chinese hacking case where we know we're not going to get them, but we want it to be known. we want to shame the actor. isn't that what's being done here? >> that was my point about the interpol piece is that you can actually go through the trial in absentia and then these people are quarantined to russia by and large for the rest of their lives. >> maybe that's what happen. >> maybe it is what will happen. >> go ahead, jennifer. >> i think this is an effective tool for for having trump confront putin on what is happening right now. >> right. >...

Role as a.g. name and shame. we saw it in pittsburgh not too long ago with the chinese hacking case where we know we're not going to get them, but we want it to be known. we want to shame the actor. isn't that what's being done here? >> that was my point about the interpol piece is that you can actually go through the trial in absentia and then these people are quarantined to russia by and large for the rest of their lives. >> maybe that's what happen. >> maybe it is what will happen. >> go ahead, jennifer. >> i think this is an effective tool for for having trump confront putin on what is hap...

Msnbc legal analyst, and nancy cooke, the white house reporter for politico. joyce, let's start with you. what does it mean robert mueller is expanding his team but he's going to the u.s. justice department for career lawyers. is that relevant? >> it's interesting. part of it may be resources. he's getting ready to launch the manafort trial, and he may feel the need to bring more bodies onboard to manage all the pieces of the investigation. it could also signal he's thinking about spinning off pieces of the case or there are matters that aren't so central to the trump-russia campaign relations...

Thinking about spinning off pieces of the case or there are matters that aren't so central to the trump-russia campaign relationship. and one of the details is that mueller is tapping investigators in pittsburgh. and that's interesting because pittsburgh is a ven view wheue they've gone in the past for the chinese hacking case, and this could signal prominence for cyber crime and hacking. >> last week the testimony of rosenstein in that congressional hearing got very hot. trey gowdy, one of the lead republicans of the e-mail investigation into hillary clinton, really, really encouraged rosenst...

Relationship, that they can go to other offices. one of the most interesting details that this reporting gives us is that mueller is tapping investigators in pittsburgh. and that's interesting because pittsburgh is a venue where the fbi has gone in the past foñ high-end cyber crimes, like the chinese hacking case, and this could signal prominence for cyber crime and hacking. >> last week the testimony of rosenstein in that congressional hearing got very hot. trey gowdy, one of the lead republicans of the e-mail investigation into hillary clinton, really, really encouraged rosenstein to wrap t...