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Harder bargain, but the idea that the people -- public employees don't even get to negotiate, i think that offends a lot of people. just basic sense of fair play. >> there's a new ad put out by the republican governor's association, they apparently made a pretty good strong buy out in wisconsin. they're airing it right now. let's look at how the republicans national government governors association what they think they have as a case. to hear the other argument, let's put it on. here is the republican argument for wisconsin. let's listen. >> it's a sea of red ink in madison. and while senate d...