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Trump is still leading by double digits. alex? >> it's a question we're constantly asking as to why that is, but halley jackson, thank you for that. let's bring in our political panel. roger simon is the chief political columnist for politico. we're going to talk about donald trump pledging not to run as a third party candidate. anyone believe if trump wants to run as independent, he can find an excuse to get out of that pledge? of course, mr. trun was insist,. >> i think probably at this moment trump believes that he will be so well treated by the republican party because of his poll standing...

Actions with the symbolism of the isil death cult. tragically, there are people in our community ready to engage in politically motivated violence. >> defense officials tell nbc news there is no evidence the gunman had any connection to isis. and they're so declined to characterize any part of this siege as an act of terror. nbc news correspondent halley jackson. the isil death cult. tragically, there are people in our community ready to engage in politically motivated violence. >> defense officials tell nbc news there is no evidence the gunman had any connection to isis. and they're so declin...

Siege as an act of terror. nbc news correspondent halley jackson. when you looked at the scene today, you had some hostages actually escaping why it was still underway in that dramatic footage. what was underway there? >> we're about a block or two from where all of this happened. it's about two city blocks where it's closed off to the public and there's still a police presence here. people are walking by, where they're able to walk by, watching, looking, taking this all in today. and we're learning more about what exactly went on inside the cafe. we know it was 7 hours into the crisis, five h...