This and the procedures that you're watching so far today and how they handled this protester, what are some of the insights you have? >> well, just that jim had mentioned it's a very professional police response, the patience they've demonstrated has been key to this whole approach. but one of the things, as i look at the video that i think to myself, if i was one of the officers responding, you've got to sit there and think, well, the world is watching me, here's this individual who's putting him or herself at risk, and putting ourselves at risk. this is not a tv studio that's happening out ...