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Statement? >> that i have no idea. perhaps we'll learn when the gentleman comes in the closed door session in the next couple of days and also from sondland. i don't know why he just learned about it. he seemed to be surprised, as well, remember. >> again, that does beg a question. did the staffer not think it was important? had the staffer forgotten about it? obviously you need to know more about this. >> and considering the administration has been trying to do everything they could to cover up the details, there are complaints that this is no first hand knowledge. both the ambassador and the...

Republicans to take the same approach? let's bring in our panel of experts to discuss. nia-malika henderson, what do you think about this strategy the democrats have versus the strategy the republicans have? and then most of next week as well. >> i think they'll stick to it. this is what we've seen from republicans already. this idea that there's no, you know, first or third or fourth hand knowledge, whatever it is. where is the whistle-blower? you heard devin nunes in his closing arguments essentially make all those points. questions about hunter biden. questions about the dnc server. some of...

From bill taylor about this previously undisclosed phone call? >> first of all, i think it's shocking on so many levels. it's shocking that the ambassador could pick up the phone and call the president in a restaurant. the president said he didn't even know the ambassador. it's shocking he could be overheard. and so my republican colleagues say it's all hearsay. so we will hear directly from the gentleman as well as ambassador sondland next week. so it'll be interesting to see how they move the ball further when we do hear from two people with first hand knowledge. >> and so in the room when t...

Holmes, the aide to bill taylor who will be testifying later this week about all of this from that will be another administration offic one other thing we should point out the president was complaining about, second-hand witnesses, witnesses with second-hand knowledge of what went on. we should point out stephanie grisham, the white house press secretary was putting this talking point out putting it in the form of a tweet complaining about all of this saying that the dem witnesses have never even spoke within president trump. we should point out the trump administration is blocking people who ...

They believe because they repeatedly showed there was no first hand knowledge of president trump's intention and neither had met president trump they accomplished that goal. the same thing in mind, this is a long process. those first hand witnesses are coming. they're aware of that. one republican staffer said they're trying to get through each day. they know what's coming and democrats are happy and so are they. much more to come. >> let's bring in our correspondent. was this a big day for house democrats? >> first, this is a big day for the country, no small thing, the impeachment of a presi...