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Commending kelly for the job he's done. we have thwarted 16 attacks. but you have to spend money. i'm not sure the tradeoff is really being put to the american people. >> that's a really good point. you've had the boston marathon attack, the ft. hood shooting, but a lot of thwarted attacks and overall, government officials, homeland security, has done a pretty good job. >> i think that that is an unwritten story that hopefully, historians in years to come will look back, yes, there were presidents, president bush and president obama that put together these programs and implemented them, but yo...

President since richard nixon. he doesn't delegate. he dominates. diminishes in some ways, john ke kerry's stat chur because he knows a lot more about foreign policy than barack obama does, but that's the way the president has set it up and unfortunately, probably one of the reasons he makes so many mistakes. >> after mr. obama noted that drone strikes had been reduced in pakistan, his secretary of state appeared to up the ante. >> i think the program will end if the president has a very real timeline and we hope it's going to be very, very soon. >> kerry's had to acknowledge that on the job t...