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>> no, there was a hangover. and it damaged jay. >> what had happened ran absolutely counter to his brand which is that i'm not a hardball player, and yes, you are. and of course, they all are, and you have to be a hardball player to succeed in that arena >> and jay takes the criticism that he receives over the controversy in stride. >> yeah, you get beat up for a while, and you try to get your version of the story out there, and with all of the serious things in the world, this looks like fun, and rich white people arguing, and you know, you have earthquakes and disease, and rich white people...

>> when he came back, was he number one almost automatically? >> no. it was a hangover. and it damaged jay. >> what had happened ran absolutely counter to his brand, which is i'm not a hardball player. well, yes, you are. and of course they all are. i mean, you have to be a hardball player to succeed in that arena. >> reporter: jay takes the criticism he receives over the controversy in stride. >> yeah, you get beat up for a while. and you try to get your version of the story out there. and you know, with all the serious things going on in the world, this looks like fun. ooh. rich white people...

One almost automatically? >> no, there was a hangover. and it damaged jay. >> what had happened ran counter to his brand which is i'm not hardball player, but yes, you are. you have to be a hardball player to succeed in that arena. >> jay takes the criticism he receives in stride. >> yeah, you get beat up for a while and you try to get your version of the story out there. you know, all the serious things going on in the world, this looks like fun. oh, rich white people arguing. earthquakes and disease and rich white people arguing. it gets people's minds off things. >> and points out. >> this ...

Are. you have to be a hardball player to succeed in that arena. >> jay takes the criticism he receives in stride. >> yeah, you get beat up for a while and you try to get your version of the story out there. you know, all the serious things going on in the world, this looks like fun. oh, rich white people arguing. earthquakes and disease and rich white people arguing. it gets people's minds off things. >> and points out. >> this was a decision nbc made, not a decision i made. you can't just snap your fingers and go, my tv show failed, i want that one. it doesn't work that way. >> leno now sets ...

Governor christie. inside the state, you know, all these investigations, it's kind of like reporters and to some degree lawmakers have become like the tom cruise character in "a few good men" trying to prove that governor christie ordered the code red. now pretty much every major deal that he's done behind the scenes, you know, if it proves that he's a bully or if it proves that he's vindictive, if it proves he's a hardball player, it's almost like it will feed this narrative that he's practicing policy only in pursuit of politics. and that's a really difficult thing. i mean, the guy who a lot...