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High-tech jobs being created. most of those jobs will not be union jobs. we're seeing high-paying jobs come to michigan without a union. in fact, if you look at our state over the last decade, we've suffered a lot being a not right-to-work in terms of personal income, not just that reason but many reasons. we dropped from 16th from 36th in terms of per capita income. we've started to come back now. i believe giving workers choice, you look at the results in indiana, they have more and better jobs coming to indiana today than they had before, and i think we'll see that same phenomenon in michig...

Statements. >> yeah. >> destruction of property. violence. >> of this legislation and opponents to stand by me in my call for nonviolence. >> union leaders talking about civil war. >> there will be -- okay. >> not helping the cause. >> it's a really fascinating and potentially disturbing discussion we've been asking. >> the union strength and union membership in this country over the last 30 years is a big story. >> yeah. >> you know what, though? i mean, it's the same thing. we're talking about unions. the unions have the same problems republicans have. they're living in a different era. ther...