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It absolutely can be. where there are unions, they are. >> the point is autoworkers were once janitors, especially, home care aids in terms of what their wages were, social status, the amount pow arer they had -- >> but the period in which he had got paid more was a very different period from the one we're living in now. and right now those jobs, i would pause it to us all, without having a solution, are exposed to much fiercer competitive pressures than they were in this golden period when those wages went up. >> i want to put in a plug for the fact we'll be discussing the way in which privat...

Boeing. the fact is there has been a concerted political effort to attack the nlrb to stand in the way -- >> it's a side show 37. >> it's want a side show -- >> if you're an activist in this space, you won't think it's a side show. >> i just want to go -- -- >> let's talk about -- >> hasn't boeing faced a lot of competition? international aerospace universe has a lot of strong participants. actually, that's been the big shock boeing has faced in the past few decades, is the rising airplane manufacturing powers from other parts of the world is. >> we have a different view. it's true that airbus...