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Telling isis supporters that it was their religious obligation to launch these attacks. since then, we've seen a numberer be of plots. two fatal terrorist attacks in canada, then an attempted hatchet attack in new york as well. there have been plots in the europe and uk, john. so a new model of terrorism worrying law enforcement officials because it's so difficult to detect. >> let's drill down on that further. you don't think of australia is having to deal with these kinds of threats but as you mentioned we saw canada, seen as a fairly peaceful nation -- i don't just say 245 because i'm from ...

Including the u.s., the uk, and australia. since then, investigators have traced the shooting of a canadian soldier in ottawa, a hatchet attack on police in new york, and a lot in the uk to shoot police officers back to the isis fatwa. they often do not enter the country from abroad, and they often don't communicate by e-mail or telephone with operational leaders, making them harder for intelligence agencies such as the nsa to track and capture them. >> while we're never going to stop these kinds of attacks, the good news is they tend to have limited impact. there are fewer victims, fewer dead...

Americans, innocent people are going to be targeted in that way both in this region and in europe and even there have been threats to do the same in the united states by isis. and by other extremist groups. >> we saw that hatchet attack and what do we know about the family of miss ryan? was she a complete innocent bystander targeted for being a westerner? >> that's what the police say. in fact, she is a teacher. she was a teacher and a mother of twin boys. her ex-husband said your beauty and pure heart will live with us all forever. everyone who knows her and loves her said she was a good pers...

>> briefly, what is the mood there now? >> you know, quiet contemplation, i might say. we got on ground here a few hours ago after flying in from the west coast, and people are milling about, going about their business, martin place is incredibly busy. it's the strand of london, a very active place. people are around-civilians. also a very heavy police presence, heavy media presence as well. so, it seems as though australians are coming to grips with what happened, and starting to begin the process of grieving the lives lost, trying to unravel this. >> certainly a very tough scene there. halie...

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