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The bomb was likely made in part by an easily obtainable military-grade explosive, like c-4, according to two american officials. >> the groups that operate in that region from isis to al qaeda to even hamas, yes, they would have access to military-grade type of explosives. that's not a problem. >> reporter: now, all of this, of course, still very preliminary. if the u.s. gets more intelligence, the assessment, the very informal assessment they have right now could change. wolf? >> all right, barbara. thank you. if isis is proven to be responsible for this russian jet crash that killed all 224...

President in egypt, he's been one of the most outspoken critics of islamic extremism and taken serious steps within egypt to crack down on islamic extremism. we can look at actions that russia's taken in syria, going after islamic extremist groups like isis, al qaeda, understanding seriousness of the threat that they pose. we forget how close russia is to syria, and their real concern they have thousands of fighters going from russia into syria, over 2 million muslims in moscow alone and so they see that it's a very real concern foreign fighters coming back and attempting to radicalize others ...

12 months, both were expanding but also some terror groups pledging allegiance, in effect, to isis. look at how far they've gone. you have a group in sinai, where this attack is alleged to have taken place, all across north africa, tunisia, where you'll remember a beach attack killed many british tourists earlier this year, expanding down here into nigeria, but also into yemen, for instance, normally home base of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. some changing of colors there by terror groups into afghanistan, across the border into pakistan, even into russia. but this, of course, of greatest...

Of the plane but also have a caveat, that could change as the investigation proceeds. analysts point out, there's communication between two groups and the downing of the plane does fit with the agenda of isis' top leaders in iraq and syria to attack the countries targeting them in that region. >> brian, thanks very much. dangerous situation in sinai. remember, 750 american soldiers in sinai, part of the u.s. peacekeeping operation there that's been in business since 1979. joining us now, democratic congresswom congresswoman tulsi gabbard of hawaii. thanks very much for joining us. how confiden...

We heard from phil? >> largely, although he did say that the investigators could go to sinai. i mean he said that fairly definitively when you asked him. this does seem to be moving the needle from the previous egyptian position, saying fbi could come in and tsb could come in. also saying at the end when you asked him about the strength of isis in sinai, this i a very violent effective organization that has access to the same materials that states have. therefore, conceding, yes, a bomb, you know, certainly not out of the question. >> clearly, the u.s. and egypt are the two governments they've...