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Examine it when it comes. >> all right. let's talk about that and more. with me, heidi przybyla from "usa today" and matt biser from "the boston globe." welcome to both of you. thanks for being here. heidi, tulsi gabbard. she endorsed bernie sanders. is she a democrat that trump supporters can love? >> you know, i'm looking at this and the question that i have is, is this a parade of diversity or is this actually going to lead to a diverse cabinet. tulsi gabbard, i have to say, i was really shocked this morning to see her on that list just because when you look at the area of foreign policy, i...

We're all humans. we're all children of this earth, and we need to work together so that everyone has a chance at having a decent life. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, please join me in honoring cnn hero, rachelle ripley. [ applause ] ♪ >> thank you. the vastness of the great plains of america makes you feel like you can touch the sky. but beneath that sky, the suffering is equally vast. here live the children america has left behind. please join hawk wing to bring help and hope to the children, parents, veterans and elders of

There's a beauty and a magic here that everyone feels. we're all humans. we're all children of this earth, and we need to work together so that everyone has a chance at having a decent life. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, please join me in honoring cnn hero, rochelle ripley. [ applause ] ♪ >> thank you. the vastness of the great plains of america makes you feel like you can touch the sky. but beneath that sky, the suffering is equally vast. here live the children america has left behind. please join hawk wing to bring help and hope to the children, parents, veterans and elders of the ...

1,200 americans died during that time, thousands of others wounded. and by the way, if you take a look at the scene, much of the sunni leadership in iraq had been run out of the country. by maliki. and the experiment looks fragile. so what did you get? and many people think it wasn't the deployment of the u.s. forces, it was the essentially hiring or bribing, if you will, of young sunnis that helped stabilize that. so there's a legitimate conversation that could be had. and john mccain didn't want a conversation. he wanted to enforce an orthodoxy about his role and that war and that surge beca...

Stabilize that. so there's a legitimate conversation that could be had. and john mccain didn't want a conversation. he wanted to enforce an orthodoxy about his role and that war and that surge because that's the dividing line for him about who's a real patriot and who's not. and that fundamentally was what much of the hearing was about today. are you genuinely a patriot and see the world like we in the kind of national security hawk wing of the gop do, or do -- but i think hagel, you know, while he's not going to be given credits for the most eloquent glad-handing senator or defense secretary,...