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Trump must provide proof or evidence to substantiate that claim. if he cannot, then he should retract it. >> i do want to ask you exactly about that. the last time we talked, which seems like eons ago but was only a few days ago, you said if the president's wiretap claims were proven wrong, if there was not evidence, it would damage his credibility. now we have the house intel chairman saying the president is wrong on this. you have paul ryan, house speaker, saying this tap didn't exist. so has the president damaged his credibility? >> well, look, let me say this too, kate. first, the easiest ...

He? >> he cannot, wolf. he was leaving the white house this morning, right before he did there was an animated meeting going on inside the oval office. this is coming at the end of a week where the administration with you hoping to still be talking about his speech to congress earlier in the week. instead ending it of trying to get to these meetings that happened last year during the campaign with the russian ambassador. of course they're trying to contain the fallout from all of this here, particularly with the attorney general's recruisal yesterday of any investigation involving the 2016 cam...

Supports him. right? it's kind of the same way he gets his back up when somebody asks him about russia, the way he gets his back up when he's asked about the support of david duke. >> david duke, yes. >> when somebody says something good about him he cannot -- when he knows they're part of his base he cannot bring himself to disavow them. >> that's true but that's what's so crazy about this question. it seemed to me like there was a hearing or cognitive problem. >> yes. >> in that he did not understand the thing -- because the guy says i am not calling you -- >> the question is almost on -- ob...

Asks him about russia, the way he gets his back up when he's asked about the support of david duke. >> david duke, yes. >> when somebody says something good about him he cannot -- when he knows they're part of his base he cannot bring himself to disavow them. >> that's true but that's what's so crazy about ts question. it seemed to me like there was a hearing or cognitive problem. >> yes. >> in that he did not understand the thing -- because the guy says i am not calling you -- >> the question is almost on -- obsequious. >> and he has come out saying he was a supporter. two days ago when presi...

Into president trump'spockets. we've got a situation rig now this gsa lease that trump post office hotel in washington where it clearly states that he cannot, that is, a government official cannot be a part of that lease. but he is, and he's benefiting and you've got folks from foreign governments wanting to play nice with the president, coming and staying at that hotel, holding their various activities at that hotel, because they want the favor of the president, and some of them have admitted that. those are the kinds of things that cause people to lose faith in government, and we just cannot...