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Ron klain, the speculation continues of where michael avenatti got this information. there's one expert quoted in one report saying that this is the kind of information that could be obtained from one of those suspicious activity reports or from a series of suspicious activity reports about bank transactions but so far it's michael avenatti leading the way on this. >> it is. and, you know, he will, i imagine that judge wood will order him to disclose the source of this information and he'll have to do so. if indeed it did come from an illegally disclosed sar, the person who disclosed it will b...

You can feel it when he's sitting here and talking to you. last night he was very clear about having information about where the money went. last night's discussion and today's discussion with him has been the money that has come in to michael cohen. he seems to know something about where the money went and he has in effect promised that's the next chapter of this story for him. >> i've been woring for a long time, worrying and hoping, the united states government is in the grip of an auto immune disorder. all through the government there are people seeing things that are not appropriate for t...

And it m seems like some of it might not be true. it's weird to get a mixed bag of half true and half untrue information or 99% true and 1% untrue information. >> michael avenatti is clearly driving michael cohen's lawyers crazy because they rushed into court today with this document which basically said he's more than 99% right but we're really, really angry -- we're really angry about this less than 1% he got wrong and he should be slapped on the wrist for that and forced to reveal where he got that. that's an understandable pleading. i can understand legally why they made that pleading, but...

Actions being made. we have information that they've been very influential in the actions of columbus nova. so the pattern of seeing the vekselberg entity made to trump before, it raises questions what they intend for this particular payment was. >> barbara mcquade, michael avenatti keeps saying -- the recurring chorus from him is he wants the suspicious activity reports on michael cohen released, he believes they should be made public now. can they be made public now is one question, but the other part is, what is it that michael avenatti believes? it's as if he knows something in there, and ...

No reporters have figured it it out. but michael cohen's lawyers may have figured it out. in a letter to the judge in considering how to handle michael cohen's case, they said that, quote, michael avenatti appears to be in possession of some information from mr. cohen's actual bank records. he should be required to explain to this court how he came to possess and release this information. and we're going to be right back with more discussion of this with our panel. riends. and we got to know the friends of our friends. and we found others just like us. and just like that we felt a little less ...