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This bill does just that. by making it worse, you know, it's hard for me to imagine how the moderate republicans could vote for it because this bill now is a much -- it's a terrible bill. it's going to hurt millions of people. it's really going to be a matter of life and death for millions of people, and it's unacceptable, and it's morally wrong. >> do you think -- i mean from a political perspective, do you think it benefits democrats politically for them to take another run at this? >> you know, it's hard to really figure out what benefits who politically. i think what's important right now ...

You know we never know what they're going to do from day to day. >> so there's the ahca, but then there's just the kind of ping pong, chicken with its head cut off effect of just this activity that it's never clear what direction it's going, what you're doing. are they threatening you? are they not threatening you? how do you make sense of what's going on in the place that you work, the united states congress? >> well, i tell you, these are very extraordinary times and it's hard to make sense of much of anything that the republicans are up to. but i have to tell you what's important is that pe...

Fears, anxieties, whatever, that weren't popping up in the polls. do you look at this issue? do you look at what he's talking about today? potentially something that's lurking out there that didn't pop up necessarily in the polling? >> well, yeah. i think look, there were so many things where donald trump in his campaign rhetoric hit a nerve. it's easy to hit a nerve when you're playing on people's fierces. it's easy when you offer solutions to things. and i think donald trump was a master. give him credit. he ran a terrific campaign. no, if's and's, and but's about it. and what the president ...

Line to some degree and has surrounded himself with people who enforce his reality distortion field that's around him at all times. and so steve bannon and other folks are in there kissing the ring and saying, yes, mr. trump, you're glorious, even though this guy is about to go have his head cut off on stage and hillary clinton's going to hold it up in victory when this thing is over. this is a guy who's so unready for this. and if he thinks he's going to pull any of these little tricks that he's talking about that didn't work in the last debate, i think it's going to be even more embarrassing...

Fundamentally unserious person, a weak, undisciplined person. he is a guy who believes his own sales pitch, believes his own line to some degree and has surrounded himself with people who enforce his reality distortion field that's around him at all times. and so steve bannon and other folks are in there kissing the ring and saying, yes, mr. trump, you're glorious, even though this guy is about to go have his head cut off on stage and hillary clinton's going to hold it up in victory when this thing is over. this is a guy who's so unready for this. and if he thinks he's going to pull any of the...