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Investigations of ethical investigations investigating scott pruitt. you think you can't be surprised anymore. did anyone on pruitt's staff at any point suggest to him that there might be ethical questions? or say, i could get into trouble because i'm not a head hunter for your wife? >> there's a lot we don't know. we did report in the story that the one aide, samantha dravious, declined to call the attorney generals association, thinking it would be a conflict of interest. today, i know it's hard for everyone, myself included, to keep up with the many investigations, you know, around scott pr...

Most over-the-top way and flattering his ego, i mean, there's just a tried and true formula if you want to work at the top levels in this government. and as you pointed out, don, the v.a. has enormous challenges, it's almost 400,000 employees. it's in the middle of a very fierce policy debate about privatizing some of the v.a. services and has some real chaotic management issues and, frankly, it doesn't seem like donald trump went out as a sort of head hunter, recruiter might, and look for someone to fit the -- you know, to match the institution and the problems that it has. this gentleman, if...

Most over the top way. and flattering his ego, i mean, there's just a tried and true formula if you want to work at the top levels in this government. and as you pointed out, don, the va has enormous challenges, it's almost 400,000 employees. it's in the middle of a very fierce policy debate about privatizing some of the va services, and has some real chaotic management issues, and frankly it doesn't seem like donald trump went out as a sort of head hunter, recruiter might, and look for someone to fit the -- you know, to match the institution and the problems that it has. this gentleman. if yo...

A republican wouldn't be such a bad thing. >> yeah, i feel like the moto should be really simple. anything is better than obamacare. and give us a listen. where do you find good candidates? where are the republicans looking? because it seems to me the big question here is new blood. and obamacare has created a wide open space the size of kansas for new candidates, young people, attractive people, libertarians, conservatives? >> immigrants. >> immigrants to take part. where do they find them? >> well. how do they do it? >> candidate recruitment is a special tool. like a head hunter finds the be...

A republican wouldn't be such a bad thing. >> yeah, i feel like the moto should be really simple. anything is better than obamacare. and give us a listen. where do you find good candidates? where are the republicans looking? because it seems to me the big question here is new blood. and obamacare has created a wide open space the size of kansas for new candidates, young people, attractive people, libertarians, conservatives? >> immigrants. >> immigrants to take part. where do they find them? >> well. how do they do it? >> candidate recruitment is a special tool. like a head hunter finds the be...