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Saying, she's not moving and she's not breathing and she can't breathe. and james said, the doors are closed now and we will deal with that at the end of the next round. >> i became concerned about liz, and i don't know if it was the way she was breathing and i raised my voice and i said, james, i am concerned about liz, and he said, liz has done this before, laura, she knows what she's doing. so i asked her if she needed to leave. and i got a head shake, and a no. >> when it was over, we were amongst the last to leave. i stayed in until people came in and took her. she didn't get out under he...

Wasn't in those top numbers. >> that's right. rick perry wasn't in those top numbers, mike huckabee was nowhere in those top numbers. it looks like he's being supplanted by ben carson in some ways as well as ted cruz. they're holding on to a lot of that vote there. it's something like 7% in iowa. mike huckabee won the iowa caucus in 2008. people thought he would be able to reclaim that. then gaza strip a snapshot. it's just iowa and new hampshire but the top line take away is that trump seems to be doing well. i'm sure he'll be touting these poll numbers at some point soon. >> can i just ask y...

I watched your head shake. >> because you know i'm not going to say he was a career criminal. but i'm going to say he had a past of being arrested. and he never, not once, ever resisted arrest. he has dobne a little bit of time. he accepted his time when the judge handed it to him. i will be home, they gave me 2 1/2. as far as my history in new york city, i've seen a lot of people resist arrest. i've seen pulled out guns on cops and live. >> but that's the point. you bring up race. she has tried to say, i don't want to deal with race as the issue, but clearly they treat differently. if he was ...

Because resisting arrest leads to confrontation, confrontation leads to tragedy. so we feel badly that there was a loss of life. but unfortunately, mr. garner made a choice that day to resist arrest. >> blaming mr. garner. >> first of all to blame the victim, the insensitivity of that is striking. but it's also -- when you look at the video, the difference between ferguson and staten island, even though we bring them together for this march, is as a video. if you see in the video a man taken down on the ground with police over him and then you continue to choke him in the chokehold is illegal,...

Now saying at the worst case, if he had resisted arrest and clearly he didn't that the penalty then is that you choke him to death? i think it's the most absurd premise that this person could have said. >> you wanted to react. i watched your eyes. i watched your head shake. >> because you know i'm not going to say he was a career criminal. but i'm going to say he had a past of being arrested. and he never, not once, ever resisted arrest. he has done a little bit of time. he accepted his time when the judge handed it to him. i will be home, they gave me 2 1/2. as far as my history in new york c...