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Whether they've been harmful or hurt. the defense industry hasn't felt them as much as the defense industry thought it would. they thought it would be post cold war era, not draw-downs but unwinding of programs. that hasn't happened. and in some degree, the defense industry is what exerts the most pull on capitol hill if they had felt it more acutely, perhaps a this conversation would be different. >> i think it's important to remember that it is, the same level of, these cuts are happening in the pentagon. and i can't help but believe that when that pain does begin being felt, we may get some...

Locally the cuts are getting a lot of attention. is this or should this be a wakeup call for washington where it's seemingly not a priority at all? >> in washington, it's treated as sort of a political game. who's winning the sequestration game? who is this going to benefit in the next election season? but around the country, that's not how it's being talked about. it's being talked about, will i have a job tomorrow? will my kid be able to go to head start? will i be able to get the unemployment benefits that i was promised? will my kids be able to go to a school for a five-day week instead of...

People that you talk to that we hope will impact because of your report and others like this lady we just showed that was talking about how she's going to have to explain to her son that he can't go back. i said he was. his name was not picked, so he can't go back into head start. when you look at jeff maryak who we mentioned, the veteran that we mentioned in our intro, here's what he had to say about his situation. i'm quoting him now. it's a kick in the teeth. i'm 40 years old and after working, what, 14 hours, i'm mopping the bathroom in the back of a papa john's. and my car smells like fai...

I think those are powerful criticisms of the plan he had put out and will continue to be criticisms that we'll hear moving forward. if congress and the president is serious about moving forward with some sort of deficit and debt deal. i think both sides will get the criticism. the plan that is envisioned is one that will go after some of these associate safety net programs. certainly not the way the republicans will do it but it will hit exactly where sister simone is talking about. >> i think the media has the same sort of problem with its own. if you look at the coverage of sequestration and...

Middle class. take ryan's budget, it's so severe worth to the lowest level since 1948. 1948. that's literally rolling back the clock. this is the same party that rails about white house tours. but it gnaws automatic budget cuts. well, they should ignore the fact that the u.s. forest service will have to cut 505 firefighters. they should ignore the fact that food programs for seniors are getting cut in georgia. or that the head start programs in indiana are actually using random drawings to decide which low-income students get preschoolers kicked out. >> head start has made a big difference in ...