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None of which were over coffee. she told where she told lawmakers a lack of coordination on ukraine was disastrous and circumstances of the dismissal of ambassador i don't have ship shameful. we spoke to gloria borger that hill was real concerned about the notion that she was pretty upset. she said that she's mad about the notion that she was upset and especially calling her emotional. so we are hearing pushback. so it's important to note sondland's testimony has been contradicted now by several different witnesses. so ultimately we'll see how the lawmakers respond on a different front aquitti...

That we're hearing pushback from various members of congress, because we need a legal immigration system because in their state it significantly impacts their economy, specifically states they rely on agriculture. they need some of that labor that comes here. that is a bigger factor. obamacare as well as immigration are important. when we have a senate as well as a white house, there is no reason we can't get this done. we have a lot of great proposals on the table. to me the best option is ending visa lottery, ending chain migration, having a more meas e merit-based system. there is overwhelm...

Four of them have poured cold water on the notion that there was any major conspiracy, spygate, a big political scandal as president trump suggested. one republican, who has been push thing is devin nunes, the house intelligence committee chairman, who has suggested that the media is not report thing correctly. he's demanding more documents. i tried to get him to comment about this today and he declined. but paul ryan pushed back on the notion that the president could pardon himself, saying it's a bad idea if he were to go that route. >> mr. speaker, do you believe the president has the power ...

Lawyers involved in a case like this. you're going to have varying opinions. it is very rare that we see it play out like this so publicly, there hasn't been so much intrigue into what is going on with these lawyers what they're thinking, how they're handling things, but the key thing here is they have an unbelievable task in trying to manage a client, the president, who just can't be managed. >> very good point, shimon, thank you very much. stand by for us as we dissect this breaking news that the top lawyer on the president's personal legal team to deal with the mueller probe is now out. nia...

>> what do we make of this? besides the fact that the 2016 campaign apparently will never end. what do -- look, it hurts and we can be snarky about this sometimes. running for president is quite a personal ordeal for anyone who gets in the arena and it hurts and she thought up until the last hour she was going to win. however, what purpose does it serve to trash the dnc, to -- and so on and so forth at this point? >> there was an interesting turn from her yesterday because we've heard the rational about comey and we've heard russia, this is the first we've heard from her blaming the party. in ...