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Out to about 40 days. but again, you got to be right on the top of the unit to hear it at 40 days. >> and we're at 34 right now, richard. so we're getting there. are we going to get enough to triangulate the exact distance? i think we have made the point to people that yes, you may be hearing something, but that doesn't mean you can dive down and look around and it's there. >> angus houston said last night, the man in charge of the search operation, houston said there is no second chance, meaning he's got to keep the search, the mowing of the sea, as tom foreman was showing, he has to keep tha...

You want to reduce any false alarm. they did that. and at that point, they held that signal again for over two hours. now, at that point, the pcl was lowered to about 1400 meters. so that was deeper. and that is more where you would expect to get this signal. as you tow the tow pinger locator, the signals should get stronger and then fade as you good past it, if that is indeed the black box. and that's what it did. it got stronger, and then it faded out. so that was encouraging news. after that, they passed the signal. what you do is you reel it back in, and you do a course change. this was a ...

Bottom. >> do you think this is the black box or a natural phenomenon? >> i'm not a sonar expert, but i think if they are hearing something that is in that frequency range, then there's a chance this could be the black box, i think it's a long shot, but i don't know the chinese operators. if the operators had herd this signal and i worked with the operators in the past. those guys are very good. and if they are hearing these pings and they get any sort of confirmation on it, then they have a very good chance it is

Sidebar taking place in the trial there. so i want to bring in our legal analyst to talk about what we've learned. mark, to you first here. you've got two different camps who are listening to these 911 tapes, and they're hearing something very different. on the one hand, all much these witnesses on behalf of zimmerman say he's the one they heard screaming on the tape. you've got trayvon martin's mother and brother saying no, it was trayvon martin. he was the one who was screaming. how does this figure? is it all a wash at this point? >> well, the defense would hope that worst case it's a wash,...

Why he says he is not a hero. a special edition of "starting point" begins right now. welcome to a special edition of "starting point," we are live from cleveland for you. i'm going to step out of the way, ask the camera to take a look at the house here on seymour street where these girls were held for ten years in captivity. just yesterday when we were here you could see that there were two flags that were hanging there on the porch. one was the american flag and the other one was a flag from puerto rico. i understand from one of the photographers here that yesterday they were taking down the...