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That very states. so he's popular there. he didn't exactly face challengers when he is running. so that's what looms over this and i do think that that means it's very difficult for the prosecutors. but if in fact they do get a guilty verdict, then that's a super important because it shows that even a jury of that nature hasn't fact decided that beyond a reasonable doubt, he's guilty. >> and i want to talk about that. the case itself, where it seems that you go, terry, first of all, though, this this issue of delaware, one woman said i think the short and not get put on, but i'm not sure but i...

Saying, "you must be a moral man to be president of the united states." you know, when character was king, people running around, doing things, saying things like that, looking to the good old days when people weren't like bill clinton. bill bennett writing his book of virtues. >> oh, my god. >> now, another hack defending donald trump and going to the wall. charlie sykes, it's crazy. i will say this, charlie, and i've talked about it on the show some, my family members, my friends, the people that had no problem telling me, even when donald trump was calling me a murderer, who voted for trump...

I have a twofer for you. we're hearing something pretty interesting from kevin mccarthy today as well? >> reporter: yeah, all my beats colliding in the same place, and that's great, because what nikki haley is trying to do is establish a pattern for giving policy speeches and it was abortion access and now on foreign policy, and she's trying to speak about the current moment with china, and this current moment with russia and giving forceful words and contrast with former president trump giving him credit, for example, for sort of leveling the playing field on u.s. and china relations and sayi...

But if you think about what we saw in the manhattan case, we were looking to see that defense lawyers were given an opportunity to be heard. that's really the thing that you do in a case like this at the final stage. and we saw the defense lawyers going into day to make their final attempt about where why there should not be charges. it is conceivable that that could prevail, but i think even that it is, theoretically a possibility, i just think in this case, knowing jack smith and his team, and the people hearing the appeal that it is extremely unlikely that they would be hearing something th...

That is sort of the state of things here. >> all of this began late last night around 9 pm eastern time, when the first tornadoes believed to have touched down here. that's a long track tornado, it went some 80 miles leaving destruction along the way. early data suggests there may have been around a dozen tornadoes that touched down in all across the mississippi and alabama. we know that the national sir weather service is going to be on the ground, surveying, looking at to see how strong those tornadoes were. already, we're hearing something like debris filing 30 to 35,000 feet in the air. we...