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Tragic happened to her. and you can believe her and believe that something tragic happened to her, and you can also believe that it was not brett kavanaugh who did it. and it's not just her word against his word. it's her word against the four people who she named who were there who have all signed, under penalty of felony, statements saying that this did not happen. they were not there. the event -- the party, the gathering, whatever you want to -- however you want to classify it, did not happen. >> she finally answered that question today, saying it wouldn't be remarkable to them. it was any...

Kagan, tell them that lindsey said hello because i voted for them. i would never do to them what you've done to this guy. this is the most unethical sham since i've been in politics. and if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to this guy. are you a gang rapist? >> no. >> i cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. boy, you all want power. god, i hope you never get it. i hope the american people can see through this sham that you knew about it and you held it. you had no intention of protecting dr. ford. none. she's as much ...

Investigation. he refused to do so. >> he was emotional. someone else who became quite emotional during the hearing, as phil mattingly was mentioning,s was republican senator lindsey graham. he unleashed during the hearing and directed it almost entirely at you and your democratic colleagues on the committee. if you need a reminder, here it is. >> if you wanted an fbi investigation, you could have come to us. what you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020. you said that. not me. you've got nothing to apologize for. when you see sotomayor and kagan...

Said oh, because i voted for this. i would never do to them what you have done to this guy. this is the most unethical sham since i have been in politics. and if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what you have done to this guy. >> bret: he said any republican who votes against you now should be ashamed. >> that's pretty strong medicin medicine. since these things are witnessed by the people who tune them in, people have a knack to grind or their mind is made up, the question is what comes out of the hearing are that with the country sees news reports, the...

You? >> yeah, i mean, it's a tough thing when they both express such certainty, but when this situation first developed, it was fair to call it a he said, she said. today, i think it's fair to call it a he said, three said, because remember, it wasn't just about dr. ford. there were three women who came forward and their statements were part of tea's proceedings. so, in order for anyone to discount dr. ford's 100% conviction, you have to believe not only that three women lied but that they conspired with the democratic party to lie for a political reason. those are the choices. those are the c...