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And scoffed at him, with a few intrepid exceptions, reuben and "the washington post" and a clearly spectator wrong them. but just a reminder how poll driven the media is and how much it's a herd mentality because a rival network had a poll at that showed them at 16%, a week or so out, and that was just the bell going off and all of a sudden, everyone was talking about santorum surging and couldn't gets enough of the guy. >> which game first? was it the surge or predictions of the surge. i think that the media played a bigger role in iowa than what is to be intended, and-- >> do you think that ...

And scoffed at him, with a few intrepid exceptions, reuben and "the washington post" and a clearly spectator wrong them. but just a reminder how poll driven the media is and how much it's a herd mentality because a rival network had a poll at that showed them at 16%, a week or so out, and that was just the bell going off and all of a sudden, everyone was talking about santorum surging and couldn't gets enough of the guy. >> which game first? was it the surge or predictions of the surge. i think that the media played a bigger role in iowa than what is to be intended, and-- >> do you think that ...

Sequestration got this what i think and most american probably, absurd verdict because they spent two months with each other and herd mentality and came to identify with the casey and forgetting about caylee, and i thought, it caused-- i do agree with cal, the television business, an important issue, but another issue of the long, long trials if it means the juries wind up being transformed by themselves and lose perspective on what they're looking at. >> jon: i wonder, al, go ahead. >> if they put cameras in the court we'd forget they were there and business as issue. >> oh, right, sure. >> j...

Box. mark kelly watched the speech from her room in tucson holding her hand and as you said, there was a change in tone. maybe by virtue of the fact you have republicans and democrats sitting together. you didn't get that herd mentality in terms of the applause. >> there was a definitely odd in the room feel to it. all day yesterday, white house aides were pushing, this is not going to be a laundry list, a very thematic speech. the beginning and middle clearly was aimed to be thematic, to have a beginning and end. the middle became a laundry list. it was as if they felt, it's a state of the un...

Nothing to do that. >> juan: linda, i'm going to get to new a second. >> i'm chomping at the bit. >> in other words, you are saying that all hispanics have to vote alike, think a like and if they don't do that they're operating against their self-interests? >> look, what i'm saying is that most latinos in this country have to work hard to make a living. and that from the standpoint of which party has done the most to represent the interests of hard-working latinos in this country and, frankly, all working americans in this country, it has been the democratic party that has stood by them time a...