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Arizona, marco rubio of florida, and lindsey graham of south carolina. except for them, is the republican party pretty much anti-reform? >> well, not necessarily. i mean, you have -- you have folks who in the republican party, in the senate, who are sort of on the fence right now, or clearly can go one direction or another. and they're really watching this whole debate pretty closely and things like a heritage study where they estimate the cost at $6 trillion, you know, is going to get their attention, but the benefit that proponents such as rubio and democrats have, their best friend right no...

People who could work in the daylight and be legal and everything else and the higher gdp that would come as a result. what would the cost of immigration reform really be? even if it's lower than the heritage foundation number of $6 trillion, will it mean an unfunded mandate? joining me, the president of the american action forum. first of all, i want to start with you about the debate. is there a fight going on in the republican party, the right, a small group of people who are reform, mccain, flake, also of arizona, marco rubio of florida, and lindsey graham of south carolina. except for the...

First of all, i want to start with you about the debate. is there a fight going on in the republican party, the right, a small group of people who are reform, mccain, flake, also of arizona, marco rubio of florida, and lindsey graham of south carolina. except for them, is the republican party pretty much anti-reform? >> well, not necessarily. i mean, you have -- you have folks who in the republican party, in the senate, who are sort of on the fence right now, or clearly can go one direction or another. and they're really watching this whole debate pretty closely and things like a heritage stud...

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