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We don't know about? >> high diving. >> what is "the x factor"? >> well, we called it "the x factor" because i thought good singer, factor, was a terrible name for a show. you know, and i think nowadays i think somebody like lady gaga defines exactly what we're looking for because she is -- she's out there on her own right now. >> she's incredible, isn't she? >> a, she's super talented, very musical, but she's interesting and she's worked it all out for herself. you ever get the feeling somebody's controlling her. she decided one day i'm just going to put a lobster on my head and people will l...

>> i wouldn't. >> on pain of death, what would you say is your talent? >> i'm good at spotting somebody else's talent. >> apart from that. >> you don't need anything else. >> but you wouldn't get to the first round with that. >> i wouldn't try. >> you would have to. >> you're missing the point. you can say you can only spot talent if you're talented. >> i'm not saying that. >> yes, you are. >> if you had to produce your own talent, do you have a secret we don't know about? >> high diving. >> what is "the x factor"? >> well, we called it "the x factor" because i thought good singer, factor, was...