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Donald trump really does prize loyalism in the people that are close to him and rudy giuliani gave him that throughout the campaign. they do feel like he has the experience necessary to do the job. but they think it could be a bloody confirmation hearing. so it's a question of do you want to spend your political capital on something like that, on such a high profile position and he also likes, this is a very donald trump thing, that mitt romney looks the part. that he looks like a statesman and just from a visual perspective, would represent him well. i think there are certainly clashes in the...

A big deal is the kinch coverag the first female editor. jill has gotten quite a bit of coverage. >> she has. >> and there has been a lot of criticism that the coverage is sexist, especially after a recent story in politico that many people including me felt was sexist. do you think she's gotten excessive coverage? >> i think that particular story was very unfortunate and almost completely sourced anonymously. and unfair in many ways. you know, when you're the first women anything, you're going to get a lot of coverage. and being the top editor of the "new york times" is not a way to keep off ...

Have you, no matter where she went that would be the case. if she went to florida for a week, you'd still -- we would still be paying, you know, some of those additional expenses. so i think where she went in terms of the cost is probably less of the issue. >> and, you see, cost -- go ahead. >> alex, i think, you know, we have this charlie rangel case. he's a well-liked guy in town. people have been talking about on our network and elsewhere is this sense of entitlement of people in power that they can do all these things that normal people can't do. and now that the times are so difficult, pe...