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I'm not so sure that this is a ma marie antoinette moment. with melania trump because she does use her wardrobe so often to send messages, not as blatent this that written on the back of the jacket or the big white hat or the whiteout fit around the me too movement. she was sending a message. she was wearing it in washington with her back turned towards washington. my sense is that she was trying to send a message to somebody in washington and it backfired. >> grow up. i'm sorry. how old is she? this is like high school stuff. we were just listening earlier to children crying and sobbing for t...

I think that you're right, kirsten, to sort of try to take it at face value, and maybe we are overanalyzing it. but with melania trump because she does use her wardrobe so often to send messages, not as blatant as this, that were actually written in paint on the back of a jacket, but things like the pussy bow after the "access hollywood" tape came out or the big white hat or the white outfit around the "me too" movement. she was sending a message. she was wearing it in washington with her back turned towards washington. my sense is that she was trying to send a message to somebody in washingto...

Bigger than your dad, but it is changing. nowadays i'm going to threaten you, and it may create social drama. a lot of kids are driven off of this adrenaline of the drama. the high school stuff, but it is different now. it is different than when we did it, because there are drugs involved in more gains than ever and somehow these kids are getting a hold of weapons. and this one may have gotten one legally because he was over 18. >> martha: time and time again we see a cocktail of too much time online and has a mental problem and may be on medication as has access to the weapon to carry this ou...

He didn't like the handshake. he was upset that ivanka was running a campaign against him. he doesn't like macron, the handshake, and he likes bannon again. this is high school stuff. this isn't a reason to have a national policy against the world. >> well, the key thing is that the president had basically had his mind made up when he started this debate. and to be clear, it was a real debate. >> but he does change his mind. we're not moving our embassy in israel. he does open his mind sometimes. >> he changes his mind on a number of issues. but this was one in talking to his senior advisers, ...

Over the last several weeks. >> joining me right now is ashley parker, reporter for "the washington post," and author of that article we were just talking about on climate. and aisha e rascoe. the he doesn't like europeans. he just doesn't seem t like them. he didn't le the handshake. he was se that ivanka was running a campaign against him. he doesn't like macron, the handshake, and he likes bannon again. this is high school stuff. this isn't a reason to have a national policy against the world. >> well, the key thing is that the president had basically had his mind made up when he started th...