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Mueller was the least well rated of any of the big tv events. i suspect this week will be a higher rated event. it will be all over the place, but i do wonder if it will change any minds or if everyone is going to dig in deeper. >> i think you'll see a lot of digging in deeper. i think there are plenty of americans who have not had the time to devote the energy to the story that maybe we in the media have. we're seeing really disturbing things coming out of the transcripts released over the last week. the most disturbing i thought aside from the open extortion of a foreign government was the f...

Unleashing on hollywood and slamming debra messing on twitter, saying that actress debra messing is in hot water, she wants to create a black list of trump supporters and being accused of a mccarthy supporter. if roseanne barr said what she did, even being on a much higher rated show, she would've been thrown off television. will fake news abc allow a mccarthy star to continue? but debra messing isn't the only outrages to example. anti-trump comedian jim carrey smearing another high-profile republican by tweeting 10,000 gun deaths in 2019 and the year is far from over. what osama bin laden did...

Into custody. they have to make a report. >> jesse: the point is, this guy is getting a hefty raise in the teachers aren't making a lot of money in the schools are failing. i think that's the point. the schools are not only failing. test grades are terrible and they are spending a boatload of money in the schools. test scores are terrible, it's freezing. there is more money to be used more efficiently and we have to look at how it's being spent. >> juan: let me stand up for the superintendent here. he says in fact this school district is one of the higher-rated school dexterous -- school distr...

I don't know what that means. ic it was a faux pas, there is a difference between a faux pas and a difference someone having an out-and-out rant. i think he said tea baggers. a lot of people when the tea party first started to come about, they would accidentally say tea baggers i. is this really your excuse? [laughter] >> i think anderson cooper had a point to make. i think anderson cooper did say when he said the tea bagger deal, i think he shouldn't have said that and people were after him, saying he shouldn't. >> he intentionally said that -- let's be honest -- anderson cooper. he intention...

Handlers, hate this debate process. they feel like it's gotten out of hand and looks too much like a reality show. too many voices involved. frankly, as somebody -- and lawrence, you know, on one hand we want debates, too. every news organization wants s debate. how some of our friends at other news organizations have gone about this, they've made the process kind of ugly. >> the democratic national committee must be trying to offer any kind of help they can in putting on this debate. if you need logistical support, anything they need. chuck todd, thanks for joining me. tomorrow on "daily rund...