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>> all right! hold up, you're hurting my arm! >> reporter: sterling was pinned to the ground and tased, twice. >> get on the ground! get on the ground! >> pop him again, howie. >> reporter: before being fatally shot. previously released cellphone video shows that salamoni thought that sterling was armed. officials said that they couldn't prove that sterling wasn't reaching for a gun. >> joining us, the author of the book "they can't kill us all: ferguson, baltimore, and a new movement in racial justice." the body cam video in louisiana

Get on the ground. >> pop him again, howie. >> before being fatally shot. previously released cell phone videos recorded bye-bye standers show it this point in the encounter salamoni believes he was armed. a gun was recovered from sterling's body. but the federal and state investigations determined the officer's actions were reasonable and come prove that sterling wasn't reaching for a gun. i just spoke with blaine salamoni's attorney who says they are appealing the police chief's decision to fire him. though, even if he is reinstated by this board, he knows he will never again be a baton roug...

Affirmatively to reengage you or if you get permission from their lawyer would you ever talk to them again. >> that's right. >> that never happened in this case. correct? >> no. he never refused to to speak with us. >> sure, he never refused to speak with you that night, either the first or second interview, right? >> he never refused to speak to us any time we asked. >> you testified concerning the investigator's interview with him where you mir ran diezed him again. did he acknowledge those rights? >> yes. >> and waived them again? >> yes. >> never did he reassert any right to remain silent,...

Called the witnesses that it has so far? >> well, so far we've had four witnesses on the stand. the first was chad joseph, the teenager who was the son of trayvon martin's father's girlfriend. and the last person who knew trayvon martin to see him alive. they had played playstation together and then trayvon went off to the 7-eleven to get the arizona soft drink and skittles and chad joseph never saw him again. the second one was and drew goff, the employee who sold those items to trayvon martin and we saw on the videotape, there was trayvon martin buying the items with his hoodie up. the third...

Direct answer to a direct question. here he is with fox new's carl cameron. >> why not provide the similar certainty by saying, well, until such time as i pass a new immigration law to provide that certainty, we'll do away with or not the president's orders? >> we talk about illegal immigration. we have to secure the border, have an employment verification system, and then with the children who were brought in by their parents, how we dial with them is something that deserves a long term solution. >> he still didn't say whether he would keep the new obama immigration policy or get rid of it, s...