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Their backs, and protesters he encouraged in the beginning are not listening to him either. he is saying hold off. this is not the time for this and they're going out there and equating kkk with the nypd. he has completely absolutely lost control. my question, at this point, can he regain it? let's say he comes out and apologizes, this has been bad politics for him. ideology this is where he stands. he is not apologizing for his ideology. his anti-cop stance is ingrained in everything he has said and done. it doesn't matter at this point or has he lost police and protesters and lost confidence...

Secret even after supposedly coming clean and making his big apology. and so, yeah, what next? golf clubs and iphones have been added to the list. stock options -- stock in the company has been added to the list. what's next? presumably there's more. this now shows signs of only getting worse, not better. if him apologizing was him not coming clean, then there's no reason to think that there isn't more to come. joining us now is delegate scott seravell of the virginia legislature, one of the first members of the legislature to call for the governor to resign. he made that call in july. thank y...

Were whack obirds. that was anyone appropriate and i apologize to them for saying that because i respect them both and i respect what they stand for and what they believe in. >> neil: i still sense this friction, though, between the establishment and the new up-and-comers. >> absolutely. you asked me the question earlier if rand paul kind of going against the establishment, calling in a subtle dig to mccain, the g.o.p. establishment has grown moss. it boomer ranged against the establish. i'm glad john mccain paulized but pauling people names and saying rand paul only has impact on libertarians...

These contrary and ugly stories bubble up. i mean, you can expect the republicans to have, to be able to take some shots at president obama saying they don't like the idea of him apologizing for the united states, whether it was the koran burning and you'll probably get some of the same kind of blow back here, but ultimately they are all agreed this thing is winding its way down so there's not so much to criticize. >> if the decision is made to wind down sooner rather than later, how quickly do you think that will reasonably happen because a lot of expectations are 18 months to 2 years are pro...

Riot over the streets over the burning of a book. this is what happens when religious extremists. >> judge jeanine: should your president have apologized because we destroyed korans that had messages in them from the men enemy? >> times things happen and you have to make exceptions for things happening. >> judge jeanine: do you apoll gaze? >> i'm not crazy about him apologizing. >> should he have apologized, yes, or no? we are giving them money because doppler. >> i think that people expect this of obama because he has gone around the world on an apology world in the first place. >> and did bi...