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>> well, there were really two things he wanted you to know here, both how bad these two people acted and how much they betrayed him. he let the world know this made him cry. that was actually one of the details that was in there, and i think, you know, as to that question you were raising before, why would they throw him under the bus so far and give him incentive to cooperate with investigators, watching this investigation unfold so far it's kind of clear they are both looking for immunity, so he may have decided that ship already sailed. >> at that point you say, well, they made a deal to s...

Encounter jesus. hollywood is not going to make big bucks just by putting jesus on the screen. they're going to make big bucks by putting jesus on the screen when there's faith behind it. that's why "the passion" worked and why this works and i thank you mark, and roma for doing that. it's not just jesus, it's people who believe that jesus was who he said he was. >> reverend, what were your thoughts? >> my jesus moment was mark and roma had a screening with 800 hispanic evangelicals right here in new york city. when he started multiplying the fish and the loves, all those pastors were just wee...

Moment in my life. because we encounter jesus. and hollywood is not going to make big bucks just off -- just by putting jesus on the screen. they're going to make big bucks by putting jesus on the screen when there is faith behind it. that is why the passion worked. that is why this works. and i thank you, mark and roma, for doing that. it is not just jesus, it is people believing that he is who he said he was. >> what are your thoughts? >> my jesus moment was roma and mark had a screening with 800 hispanics, when he started multiplying the loaves, and for the first time ever, i saw him cry. b...

I can say this was a third jesus moment in my life. because we encounter jesus. and hollywood is not going to make big bucks just off -- just by putting jesus on the screen. they're going to make big bucks by putting jesus on the screen when there is faith behind it. that is why the passion worked. that is why this works. and i thank you, mark and roma, for doing that. it is not just jesus, it is people believing that he is who he said he was. >> what are your thoughts? >> my jesus moment was roma and mark had a screening with 800 hispanics, when he started multiplying the loaves, and for the ...

Moment in my life. because we encounter jesus. and hollywood is not going to make big bucks just off -- just by putting jesus on the screen. they're going to make big bucks by putting jesus on the screen when there is faith behind it. that is why the passion worked. that is why this works. and i thank you, mark and roma, for doing that. it is not just jesus, it is people believing that he is who he said he was. >> what are your thoughts? >> my jesus moment was roma and mark had a screening with 800 hispanics, when he started multiplying the loaves, and for the first time ever, i saw him cry. b...