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>> i received a call from roger and he was in a total panic. kill me, kill me. i said who is going to kill you? i'm not sure. >> mecham tried to talk roger down. >> he wanted to swim the river and meet by the cover of darkness. all that stuff. >> they met the following morning. what was the first thing out of roger's mouth? >> basically, you know, that he knew that bob had killed his wife and kids. >> and there was more. the new plot to kill bob's parents. >> that was a shocker. >> that was the shocker. >> only one thing to do now. roger would have to do the one thing he thought he would never...

Car. >> that's a neat word. >> it is. whatever it means. >> joe, you said you love it when somebody is trying to help our government and you react the same way your dad does when your mom gives him directions. so you are saying obama is not a woman. >> no. i'm saying he's a man. i'm saying the dutch, they are all women. >> i thought that's what you were implying, but i wasn't sure. >> we know each other. >> we go back. >> you don't even have to talk anymore. >> no, we don't. >> it is all here. steven, you say libertarians say the perfect is the enemy of the good which i never heard libertarian...