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Agree request t agree with the insanity defense in chicago. >> i just did not agree with it, would you have to be totally, excuse my language, bat shit craze tee belie crazy to believe i'm insane. >> do you believe you are sain? >> yes, i believe i'm sane. >> do you believe you were sane in the '80s and '90s. >> i was in the marines, i would have to be sane. >> so how did he become such a monster? who is this serial killer? are there any clues to be found in his childhood? coming up in our next hour, a psychiatrist who examined urdiales weighs in. and we ask this killer some very tough questio...

>> are you surprised by this move move? >> i'm not surprised by it. i knew he might be leaving soon. he encouraged me early on. he used to work for dan quayle. >> what kind of role do you think he played in this administration? was he saying to the president, listen, mr. president, you know there's something wrong over here. >> i think he was willing to tell the president the truth rkts what he needed to hear. that may not have always been popular with this president. >> are you surprised he lasted this long? a lot of people who have said things to the president are not there. >> he's lasted l...