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Than conor lamb. conor lamb more of a moderate democrat. state representative kenyatta clearly the true blue progressive in the race. go back to philadelphia for a second. i want to see something. if kenyatta is to have any prayer, he needs to win philadelphia outright. he needs a stunner there. look at how close that is. >> that's not going to do it if you're going to have a shock. we should open our minds whether tonight or throughout this primary season. we do see evidence in both parties that people are looking outside the box. you mentioned john fetterman. he is a progressive candidate bu...

Progressive, he is also going to have an issue he has to deal with in the black community because of the mayor. in 2013, he was out one night and heard what he said was gunfire and ended up confronting an unarmed black jogger with a shotgun. and nothing came of it. it turned out the fellow was unarmed and the man is now in jail and he's endorsing fetterman from jail. but you can understand how a republican candidate could work with that to try to hurt fetterman in the black community. >> one of the concerns you hear from democrats is how fetterman will do in those suburban areas around philade...

Know. pennsylvania like so many americans across the country worried about inflation, worried about healthcare prices. worried about healthcare access. what is his pitch going to be, why should voters vote for him? >> because he's someone who listens. he wants to understand your issues. whether you voted for him now or not. he wants to be a senator for all of pennsylvania. so he really cares about people. and he wants to understand what your needs are and priorities are. and the label of progressive or not, the things he's running now are the same things he ran back then when they called him p...

>> absolutely. they can. i feel we have done a great job. we turned on the news in under 48 hours. my kids knew right before the rest of the world did. and we have been open and transparent through the whole thing. we'll continue to be. the exciting news to share is that surgery was perfect. and he's well on the road to full recovery. >> it's still early. we don't know who will win the republican senate primary in pennsylvania. is there a candidate that your husband would rather run against? mccormick, oz, or barnette. >> no, i think we'll wait to see what we're up against and prepare to conti...

Is that what it's going to be? republican versus republican? >> i think glenn wouldn't cal himself a republican. he puts a pox on both houses, says they're all corrupt, i wouldn't vote for any of them, which in theory is an interesting and fairly honest critique of modern politics. but in reality where i was trying to get him to go, you know, we have to vote for republicans or democrats, we have to elect people. he called him progressive, too. so he doesn't mince any words. what about electability? is that not a factor in all of this? >> i asked him about that. i asked him whether he thinks ...