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Today, you can be disappointed. >> what about this idea that he might not believe in anything? that he'll say anything. we could have played 45 minutes of tape of him railing against nafta. a deal signed by president cleanse and supported by hillary. trade creates strange bedfellows but nafta was up there with the wall in terms of something that even donald trump's detractors thought he believed in. >> he did not run as an ideology guy. he ran as a results guy. and the economic nationalism was a kind of theme. and yes, did he rail against nafta. i think the bigger problem for him is, where are...

Number two, his paper becomes the actual vehicle for bigotry and number three, is he supported by bigots? yes, he is. to show you an analogy of keith ellison who is a good person were to be appointed the head of the democratic national committee, hamas would cheer and yell because he had association with farrakhan in the past and maybe that 9/11 was something -- >> we should be clear, you are talking about the congressman from minnesota. >> a good person. >> the farrakhan stuff, was he participated in the million man march in 95. he said once he found out a full history of farrakhan's statemen...

Create a contrast that people can fill in the dots. especially with this stuff of t the clinton foundation in the news, the money she has to raise, $2 billion, and him railing against the banks, against money and politics. she's trying to head that off at the pass. she has four big fights she's running on her campaign and one of them an entire quarter of her agenda so far is getting money, unaccountable money, as she calls it out of politics. so she's making a big effort to the appeal to liberals. she's been meeting with liberal policy people, economists behind the scenes to try to assuage the...