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Not containing and waiting to negotiate. interdict the shooter. it speaks volumes about the police department. >> we have to examine it by contrast also. we've seen what happens when officers delay before they go in. witnesses have them running in as they were suiting up. anxious to take this guy on. that seems to be critical importance. one of the witnesses said they heard him reloading. this murder had every intention to keep going. >> i think response time is only half of it. we're missing the second piece of it. the mind set of the people going in. can you imagine stepping in there realizi...

Seconds, 7-10 seconds gap between him reloading. that's when we moved from cover to cover. thank goodness it was a country concert, so many ex-military that kind of jumped in. the veteran hats, and 60-year-old man just ducking down, stay low, stay low. coaching people on what to do in the situation. i saw people plugging bulletholes with fingers. >> jon: let's talk about their heroism and try to forget about the tragedy. let's talk about the heroes that you saw last night. >> in a world where everyone is kneeling, i saw hundreds of people standing up and running towards the danger. these first...

That bible study and that he opened fire while they were praying. she laid out the story in chilling detail, and i want to play for you part of the 911 call that was played in court for the first time publicly. this is the beginning of that call. take a listen. >> please answer, oh, god. >> 911. what's the address of the emergency? >> emanuel church. there's people shot down here. please send somebody down here. >> emanuel church. >> emanuel church ame. >> there's people shot? >> they shot the pastor, all the men in the church. please come right away. >> now, craig, you were here from the very...

Start running around in panic. people stayed if -- in their seats. when they noticed him taking fire they got down on the floor. it could have been a lot worse. >>shepard: do you have a sense how long this went on? >>guest: well, it really seemed to go slow in the moment. but i would say it was, you know, a minute, maybe, a minute and a half the whole thing getting shot after shot after shot. >>shepard: other witnesses have described him reloading? did you see that? >>guest: well, i was the 4th row from the top of the auditorium. there was a time in define when i heard a slight pause and betwe...