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Under net under netten yeah huhanyahu. in his book and in subsequent articles he explains the ways he thinks the obama administration lost the trust of israel from relying public day light to the president making speeches about the middle east that the president didn't clear with the prime minister first. and much more. i asked martin indig to join me as well. he was president obama's special envoy for israeli-palestinian negotiations. he was on the other side of many of the issues orrin brings up. he was ambassador to israel under bill clinton. we talk about the day light and the speeches but...

Appointment to special envoy was cleared by secretary of state kerry with prime minister netanyahu netanyahu. as for building trust, michael doesn't know that the extent to which i went to build that trust with the prime minister. indeed following michael's advice on this. and we did work closely together during those negotiations and i followed certain understandings that the prime minister and i reached about what i would and wouldn't do. and during those negotiations i think we had a relationship of trust. when those relations broke down i criticized both sides for the failure of those nego...

If you embrace us make us feel secure we will go that extra mile. it seemed to me pretty much early on that that message was not being internalized. with martin's appointment we discussed ways that he could build that trust. that trust was not established and that the relations ended up being famously strained. >> martin? >> well, famously strained is michael's characterization. i simply don't agree with that at all. my relationship with netanyahu had its ups and downs. i would say something that michael doesn't know, this goes to a lot of the things that are in his book he relates something w...

Settlements by the people of israel. they're considered the jewish neighborhoods of jerusalem that no israelis think of as settlement. it was chosen to release prisoners that killed hundreds of israelis to keep the settlement issue off the table. to condemn israel for building in neighborhoods which nobody considers settlements was unfair and just -- from my mind that is another example of undermining of under the trust -- >> that's not true. as a historian you are not giving an accurate account of what happened. >> as an -- >> wait a minute. let's give martin a chance michael. >> when both of...

If you embrace us make us feel secure we will go the extra mile. it seemed to me from pretty much early on in 2009 that message was not being internalized. not by everybody. with martin's appointment we discussed ways that he could build that trust. in the end i don't think that martin would disagree that that trust was not established and that the relations ended up being famously strained. >> martin? >> well famously strained is michael's characterization. i don't agree with that at all. my relationship with netten yeahanyahu had its ups and down. something he doesn't know. this goes to a lo...