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About immigration here tonight. and in light of that, there will be a pretty big protest with an hispanic group, expecting 1,500 people out here protesting his immigration stances and saying he's not fit to be the leader of this country. >> and in addition to the protests out there, there's been other news today, that is that the former governor of california, and television film star, arnold schwarzenegger will be taking over the apprentice. curious to get your reaction from the trump campaign, whether there's a response to that news? >> trump tweeted himself, congratulations arnold schwarzen...

To see both of you. m maria, it's well documented how crucial the hispanic voting block has come in america. these are numbers from the census showing 55.5% of all u.s. growth attributable to the hispanic population in this country and make up 16.7% of population and make up 30% of the population in later years. how can the first lady key noting a speech before the nation's largest hispanic group? >> it's clearly saying it's no longer a side group but, if anything, the american latino has become mainstream and it's a group coveted and everybody wants to pay attention to. when we look at the la...

Are the implications for president and the congress? >> there are two ways this can go. to underscore something annie said, if we care about the impact of immigration reform, we should increase the minimum wage. i don't understand why they're not talking about that which is very popular across a lot of lines. if immigration reform goes down, it is a defeat for the president, but there's a big however, which is why he went on spanish language television. if the republicans take a big hit in 2014, if the hispanic group says you stop this from happening, we are going to have this happen in virgin...

>> consider. >> less than 50%. but the second thing to understand too is among the hispanic group, most people will say economics at least an equal amount to the immigration reform is why they would vote for a candidate. and what we think in this over simplistic washington world is if we just do some immigration reform all of a sudden we'll get the support from the hispanics and it's not going to happen that way. and the base very well may be turned off. >> howard, look at this politically. in many 2014, this is where i see there's a conundrum coming up this year. all those anglo districts. if...

Wealthy. republicans are portrayed fairly as the party of the better off and civil rights not as good as they used to be. there's reasons why people new to the corrupt or here illegally would have a certain attitude about the republican party. it seems to me if you get more democrats because you get more hispanic voters, you saw what happened in california. they became democrats. how do the republicans win this thing? is it a catch 22 to be blunt? we're talking about not the moral issue but the blunt political issue. >> there's a policy issue and a political issue. i mean, if you look at this,...