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And on top of that, what you have is rob porter making notes, and he had two interviews with the special counsel. and you can't forget the fact that he was allowed to do that earlier, and it was in the report, and we have it chapter and verse. so i think that what the white house likes to do is to delay no matter how frivolous is the question. i think that the judiciary committee should step up and use its internal powers to directly require mr. porter to testify and not go to court, to use their inherent powers, to even put him in a comfortable room in the basement of the congress, because we...

Frank figliuzzi and claire mis-cass kill last week on the show were pretty animated how nadler shouldn't be up and down debating impeachment if they can't get mueller on the hill f not mueller, why not all of his deputies? if mueller is like a newspaper's publisher, the reporters are all of the investigators and prosecutors who brought the manafort case and flynn case and all of the interviewed people like hope hicks in the obstruction investigation, why aren't they on capitol hill? >> they can tell the story. when i was u.s. attorney i used to say i had a job in which i saw everything and did...

Advisor ivanka trump used her personal e-mail account for government business. remember when hillary clinton did that? joining us now former white house communications director anthony scaramucci, he is the author of the new book "trump: the blue collar president." >> alisyn read it cover to cover. >> i can speak it chapter and verse. i commit it had to memory. >> right up there with the bible. >> they similar. >> okay. >> ivanka trump used personal e-mail for government business. >> yeah. >> oh, my goodness. >> look, when i read that is correct i mean, my first reaction was, okay, so it's sor...

Trump tower? politically it looks terrible. >> the lawyer's job is to protect the president. >> sandra: michael caputo when he sat down with robert mueller saying things like this. listen. >> it was very clear they didn't want me to talk about this stuff and i think i can characterize what i exchanged with them but i think everybody has been cautioned by the mueller team that going out there and talking about it chapter and verse is highly discouraged. >> sandra: that's donald trump's former campaign aide. >> the mueller team has talked to a lot of current aides and they probably shouldn't be ...

Coming hours. >> let's bring in larry wilkerson. he was chief of staff to former secretary of state colin powell. what is your initial reaction? >> i'm rather stunned that we got what we got. i got the agreement about 5:00 a.m. this morning. i was unable to go over it chapter and verse. i've listened to the statements and followed it all along. i'm rather stunned that we got what we got. what i've offered to the cricks in congress and elsewhere is show me your alternative. they don't have any alternatives. this is the best we can work with this problem at the present time. >> let me read you f...