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President obama hadn't done this? with the support as you mentioned of the united nations and most of the world. not only would we have a blood bath but also a message sent to dictators all around the world that gadhafi's approach for dealing with these political protests through violence and brutality works. finally we would still be embroiled in libya. gadhafi would still be threatening terrorism. we would still have the sanctions but we would be embroiled in a disaster instead of something that has a chance to end hopefully. >> what about the french and the brits? the french are concerned a...

About president obama's military commitment in libya. reasonable people can disagree on the merits but that doesn't mean that all the disagreement is reasonable. which of course brings us to the republican party. yes, many of them have rediscovered constitutional limits on presidential powers since president obama was elected. you about party that steam rolled america into two wars has suddenly discovered a barrage of reasons to oppose a democratic president's military action. house speaker john boehner put out a statement, having it both ways. he said the united states has, quote, a moral obl...

Terror attack in berlin that killed a number of civilians. gadhafi waited two and a half years and then destroyed pan am 103 in retaliation. i think the terrorism fears such as it is right now is that if gadhafi can consolidate authority, can regain control over his country, he may pick a time and place of his choosing to respond to what the international community and the west has done. if that's the long-term threat, that's what the administration needs to worry about. >> that is what president obama is saying is that the policy of the united states is to remove gadhafi, that he has to go. t...

Advantage of that, frankly, i wouldn't worry about it. besides, if al qaeda does establish bases there we will pound the living you know what out of them as soon as we identify them so i do not believe this is a long-term threat. >> roger, what does pan am 103, how does that play into this? a former justice minister under gadhafi said he had evidence gadhafi himself ordered the bombing of this 747 over lockerbie, scotland. >> there is no doubt in my mind that gadhafi had a direct role in it. he still has blood on his hands from the hundreds who died in that tragic attack. i think the thing we ...

And if you think congress won't put up a fight, listen to the ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee, republican richard luger, out of indiana. >> it's a strange time in which almost all of our congressional days are spent talking about budget deficits, outrageous problems, and yet at the same time all of this passes which is a very expensive operation even in a limited way. >> which is a very expensive operation. now we have been in afghanistan for ten years. we've been in iraq, this is year number eight. you mean to tell me mr. luger who has been in washington what, 30 year...