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I think both of our institutions, no more diners. i think both of our institutions have gotten better at this, just to stew in and let people talk. i often talk about religion because i grew up in a religious, a very religious family. i think, look, people in new york and los angeles, the places i have lived in, not everybody, but people in the worlds we travel don't always see religion as a powerful force that it is. and i think we have to do a better job understanding that. i think we cannot dismiss everybody who supported donald trump, and we just cannot dis miss them. first off, that's not...

That's all i have ever been arrested for is petty theft. taking stuff from walmart or wherever. >> wesson has a long history of stealing and getting caught. he has nine prior theft convictions and recently pled guilty to felony theft, and is now awaiting sentencing. >> t objective is to be in and out fast. go in, get what you got to get and go out the door. tvs, computers, stuff like that. i don't run out or anything like that. i just walk out, smiling and waving. they think i'm a normal customer. >> now wesson has been caught on camera stealing again. this time it was inside the jail. and inv...

Handed over. >> it's a question that needs to be answered, right, when it comes to whether this is something that fits the definition of something that should be given to congress but is it objective to have the white house counsel's office talking to olc to have these parties being the ones determining is that an objective process for them to determine that answer? >> that's a good question, because this is very unique. there have been situations where congress has asked the white house for transcripts of communications between the president and foreign leaders. the white house has denied tha...

We note russians have violated. i think it objective has to be not just retaliation and tit for tat. but disproportional. that's how you construct deterrence. the adress -- the aggressor has to believe the ask the. we don't know what is being taken in secret. that's the difficult of having a full public policy debate about cyber it's a clandestine activity. but i think to get public support for stronger measures we'll have to bring more of it out in public. i don't think we should necessarily confine our retaliation to cyberspace. i think the kind of sanctions, for example, not just limited or

Latest provocation by north korea. arthel: military expert predict kim jong-un will have the potential capability to launch a war head that will hit us in three years. how can we prevent a nuclear armed north korea? eric: we are joined by john bolton, former ambassador to the united nations. ambassador, sanctions have not deterred kim jong-un. in the 1990s north korea was given oil and food in return for them not testing nuclear missiles. >> i'm not sure there is anything that will contain this regime until it achieves it objective of getting a ballistic