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But you say, literally, that veterans are dying and have died as a result of this shotty system at the phoenix va where they are literally just ignoring veterans until they die. explain. >> well, megyn, what happened was in february of 2013, they started a secret waiting list, it was a paper list. so when you would come in for an appointment. they would tap your information into the computer and rather than hit save, they would print it and there was actually no record you had been there in the computer. they would take that piece of paper up to has, up to the administration services and then ...

Line day in, day out for us. now they're on a list called left to die, that may not even exist post time. a retired veterans affairs doctor was on "the kelley file" coming forth and break sig lens for the first time. >> what happened in february 2013, they started a secret list which was a paper list. when you would come in for an appointment, they would tap your information into the computer, and rather than hit save, they would print it, and then there was actually no record that you had been there in the computer. they would take that piece of paper up to health administration services, and...

Because many people can't afford health insurance. >> do you think it's right that so many people in this country cannot afford health care? and therefore, do not have it? >> well, no and that's why i want to fix that secondly, i think we need to expand health savings accounts. make it easier it save in a tax-advantaged way to take care of peru vengs, take care of routine medical needs and third i think we need to delink health insurance from employment. in you or i get fired, you don't lose your car insurance, house insurance, life insurance, there's no reason you should lose your health insu...

Now,looking back, have any regrets at all about anything that you did? >> yes, i do. it's the people i couldn't save. >> bill: the americans you couldn't save were the allied forces. >> the americans, local iraqis, anyone who i witnessed violence coming down on them and i could not save them. >> bill: that's your regret? >> yes, sir. >> bill: you don't have post-traumatic stress or anything like that or, you know, that you killed so many human beings? that doesn't come back at you? >> none of my problems come from the people i have killed. >> bill: with us now, scott mccune who co-wrote "ameri...

>> bill: and you liked it. you liked that job. in that book that comes -- your wife didn't want you to do it. she wanted you to stay home. how many times did you go back? >> four times. >> bill: four times. you liked killing these guys. did you ever figure that out? it's not a problem taking out someone who wants your people dead. that's not a problem at all. >> bill: do you ever now, looking back, have any regrets at all about anything that you did? >> yes, i do. it's the people i couldn't save. >> bill: the americans you couldn't save allied forces. >> the americans, local raikes, anyone ohi...