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I talked to him earlier about how he saved this little girl's life. so it's really the second blast when you realized -- >> second blast, yeah. that took all doubts out of my mind. i immediately started running towards the front, yelling for people to get back, get to the kitchen, get away from the windows, you know, not pushing people back but at the same time, i was making it known that i was going forward and they were going the other way. i get out to the patio and i don't know if it was just tunnel vision or fate or whatever it was, but i just looked and focused and i just saw this one ch...

People to get back, get to the kitchen, get away from the windows, you know, not pushing people back but at the same time, i was making it known that i was going forward and they were going the other way. i get out to the patio and i don't know if it was just tunnel vision or fate or whatever it was, but i just looked and focused and i just saw this one child in the middle of the street just sitting there with this dazed, shocked look. even from where i was, i could tell this child was hurt. >> you could see her face. >> yeah. i could just tell. like i said, that's why i don't know if it was t...

Running towards the front, yelling for people to get back, get to the kitchen, get away from the windows, you know, not pushing people back, but at the same time, i was making it known that i was going forward and they were going the other way. i get out to the patio, and i don't know if it was just tunnel vision or fate or whatever it was, but i just looked and focused and i just saw this one child in the middle of the street just sitting there with this dazed, shocked look, even from where i was. i could just tell this child was hurt. >> you could see her face. >> i could, yeah, you could ju...

This. to say the stereotypes of people who rely on these programs have done a good job of demonizing. we tend to think of african-american and lazy and the statistics are flot the case at all. that, in a very conservative area, that plays quite well because then it's like you are getting tough on those lazy people instead of understanding that when you cut the programs, when, you know, perhaps there need to be changes in the programs to make sure people are able to -- like what is the path to get back to work? is it training or retraining services? when you oversimplify the message and make cu...

Defending him. kirsten is not defending him. democrats in congress as well as republicans are coming together to investigate what happened which i think is appropriate. this particular agency and conference had problems with increased costs in the bush administration as well as now. it's important, i think, to look at the bigger picture and what president obama has done to reduce spending on government travel, i.t., real estate, printing, you name it training, conferences. >> bill: wait a minute. i don't get this ms. omer row. bottom bill he is the biggest spending president by far. no one eve...