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He worked for george w. bush before president obama. what's going to happen with this book, what's going to come out of it? >> you know, i wrote a column just now that i actually think with a full reading of it, i might come away more impressed by the president than gates through the book, believe it or not. >> in what way? >> well, it did point out some of the things we already know about the president, his lack of engagement, micromanagement, and so there's a lot of head nodding as i was reading through the excerpts, but also it showed a president who was questioning his commanders and secon...

Believe it. at the end of the day, any decision was made based on politics. the president made a real promise to the american people that he'd get us out of two wars, that he would get us out of iraq, that he would escalate, take it to bin laden, obviously, did do that. that's sort of not mentioned in your interview here. he succeeded in that, and he's gotten us out of two wars. at the end of the day, he kept his promises, and, you know, to say there's ever a time when you don't consider the promises that you made to the people in a discussion about any issue, that's just not realistic. this p...

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