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Uncomfortable with armed camp schools. what about the rights of those parents. we worry about the rights of hobbyists more than the rights of parents sometimes. >> there are. but these sort of in stances can change public opinion on that question. i had a couple of meetings with various house republicans today and the thing that strikes me is it is not a question of their thinking we need to move on guns, but unfortunately we can't for political reasons. they don't think this is -- that's the right thing to do. they don't believe that it is a promising strategy for fighting this and things lik...

>> there were a lot of people into the changes in technology and how we a part of it, even at our companies we were the fringe element. we had the jeans. we're not the managers and leaders. but a clever design on its own had value. >> you had these guys like steve jobs, bill gates and steve wozniak. and bill gates appall allen messing around on the edge of the personal computer industry. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have, would ever even happen, let alone have any relevance to them. >>...

The personal computer industry. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have, would ever even happen, let alone have any relevance to them. >> for all of us, the computer revolution was really exciting. it was like, wow, this is wide open. >> it was a group of people who want to make a change in the world. and eventually, the two forces in silicon valley, the hobbyists and the button-down business guys ended up coming together when the chip makers realized the things that the hobbyists were doing...

Called silicon valley. >> the magic part of silicon valley is that there was this boiling pot of people who were involved in technology, involved in science. >> silicon valley was hp, sri, xerox park and stanford that was a hell of a combination. >> there were these two cultures engineered with ph.d.s and hobbyists. >> there was a lot of counter culture people. so you had cheap semi-conductors. you had people that would look at things differently than what the conventional person was, and that's what the technology needed then. >> one of the things that was really hard about making a computer ...

Electronic gadgets from wristwatches to microwave ovens. >> the industry gives birth to a new high-tech cult and a place called silicon valley. >> the magic part of silicon valley is that there was this boiling pot of people who were involved in technology, involved in science. >> silicon valley was hp, sri, xerox park and stanford that was a hell of a combination. >> there were these two cultures engineered with ph.d.s and hobbyists. >> there was a lot of counter culture people. so you had cheap semi-conductors. you had people that would look at things differently than what the conventional p...