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People. i want to caution people that the most unreliable piece of information here, it isn't entirely appropriate to talk about it and include it in the report, is the witness test testimony because they were in situations that no one should be in. and they will remember things differently. if you don't have information right now, worse than saying the wrong thing is silence. you have to get up, you have to tell the public and the media, here is what we know right now. it's preliminary. here is why we think this is the case. here is why we need more information and go from there, and that has...

>> and when it started to morph, you sort of moved into the side streets, we saw some of the footage of projectiles being hurled at police, police using a variety of different implements. a kind of green gas was being fired. pepper balls and orange kind of pepper spray, how did it sort of evolve when you saw it from a ground's eye view, from what was this fairly limited confrontation between teenagers and the police into what we saw later? >> what i believe happened is, the police were you know -- they were holding lines, and then they eventually kind of made a perimeter that -- took up fourth...

Reinforcement reinforcements, as well. so like i said the crowd was swelling on both sides. >> and when it started to morph, you sort of moved into the side streets, we saw some of the footage of projectiles being hurled at police, police using a variety of different implements. orange kind of pepper spray, how did it sort of evolve when you saw it from a ground's eye view where it was this fairly limited confrontation with the teens and police into what we saw later? >> what i believe happened is the police were you know -- they were holding lines, and then they eventually kind of made a peri...