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About abuse of power, i wish we were talking about what was revealed by inspector general horowitz on the i.g. report and on how the four fisa warrants was involved. >> i'll get to that. but you just talked about andrey yermak and it is pointed out they rely on president trump and the trump administration. there was evidence presented to your committee august 10th, yermak privately texted, it will be logical to do after we receive a confirmation of the white house meeting date. once we have a date we'll call for a press briefing announcing upcoming visit and reboot of the u.s./ukraine relation...

On an individual, especially an american citizen that our fourth amendment civil liberties are being protected. i think there is the base right now about do you introduce a third entity to debate and have the side of the person that the fbi or the nsa is looking to surveil to make sure that they are doing what they're doing. and i just want to make one point on this horowitz report, the bar for the fbi to open an investigation is actually pretty low. >> very low. >> whether or not that was done properly or improperly, they said it was done properly. that is not the real question. the real ques...

The president, none of which worked. they may not have been aware of the most recent horowitz report, but it is clear now that the whole investigation that has brought us here with crime after crime being alleged and then having to be dropped was a fraudulent effort before the fisa court to have a surveillance warrant done against carter page. they lied initially, said that he was a russian agent when actually he had been used by the cia as a spy against russia. so they lied. it was fraudulent and there hopefully will be people that will answer for their crimes and their fraud in the departmen...

Group of centrists in districts trump won in 2016, they're having second thoughts, and several moderates have privately pined for other options including a censure vote, they know they're unlikely to get. some have considered what one moderate called splitting the baby, meaning back one article of the impeachment but not the other to try to show independence from the party. >> michael horowitz yesterday testified before the senate judiciary committee, where he reiterated the central finding of his report, that the decision to open an investigation of the 2016 trump campaign was in fact justifi...

Hoped he would be. he didn't push back on a lot of the assertions that democrats had made. so we saw lindsey graham really get in there and grill him. there were the words spying thrown around a lot. he did not play ball with that. but we did see in the tone, as expected, that they really wanted to say hey, there is something wrong here with the fbi, this investigation was not justified, but he didn't really do that for them. >> the inspector general basically said this report does not vindicate anyone. but yet you have former fbi director jim comey saying this vindicates the fbi, you have the...